Comments on: Session Proposal: Building a Better Backchannel http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/05/20/session-proposal-building-a-better-backchannel/ The Humanities and Technology Camp Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:19:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.12 By: Building a Better Backchannel (THATCamp Report) - ProfHacker - The Chronicle of Higher Education http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/05/20/session-proposal-building-a-better-backchannel/#comment-304 Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:02:23 +0000 http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/?p=542#comment-304 […] CHNM in Fairfax, Virginia, on “building a better backchannel.” As I wrote in my initial proposal, it’s come to be expected at digital humanities-oriented conferences that there will be a vibrant […]

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By: briancroxall http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/05/20/session-proposal-building-a-better-backchannel/#comment-137 Tue, 31 May 2011 20:00:20 +0000 http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/?p=542#comment-137 Like Matt, I love this idea. And like Amanda, my first thought is that we need a better way to archive this backchannel. Personal servers running Twapperkeeper are one thing, but they aren’t enough, I think.

Like Eric, I would also like there to be ways to better sort the different conversations that happen under one hashtag. It honestly gets unwieldy to use multiple hashtags after a while. But I would also like to see there be a way to easily tell what a hash tag is for. It’s not unusual for me to see hashes in my tweetstream but to have a very hard time pinning down what event is being referred to. In some ways, then, I want my perfect backchannel to allow me to click a hash that redirects not simply to a page of all the posts grouped under the hash but instead to a page with all the posts and some basic information about the event and who has been posting/tweeting about it to this point. Better on-the-fly analysis tools would be great.

And while we’re on the fly, how about trending topics within the hash tag itself?

As far as what you need in a conference vs what you need in the classroom, I think one issue is scale. When I’ve used backchannels in classes, things do not fly as fast and furious as they do at a #thatcamp or #mla. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but I think that it ends up making the participants miss the excitement of the real-time medium. I don’t know really how to fix this–inserting a delay breaks the real time.

One more thing that the current backchannel doesn’t support well is longer posts. But I suppose there is always Deck.ly

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By: Amanda French http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/05/20/session-proposal-building-a-better-backchannel/#comment-58 Thu, 26 May 2011 04:02:55 +0000 http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/?p=542#comment-58 Personally, I’m still fond of Twitter as the “backchannel” tool — EXCEPT (and it’s a big except) for the difficulty of archiving it now that Twapperkeeper downloads have been disabled. I suspect there must be other solutions, but I haven’t found them yet (we’re looking at installing Twapperkeeper server-side but haven’t yet). But I agree with Patrick that “backchannel” might not be the right word, since part of what I love is the ability for non-present people to participate. But what the hell, I can’t think of a better one, and I know what you mean.

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By: mkgold http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/05/20/session-proposal-building-a-better-backchannel/#comment-46 Wed, 25 May 2011 08:54:39 +0000 http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/?p=542#comment-46 Love this idea, Mark.

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By: What’s a Humanities Coder/Hacker? » THATCamp CHNM 2011 http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/05/20/session-proposal-building-a-better-backchannel/#comment-34 Sat, 21 May 2011 17:54:57 +0000 http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/?p=542#comment-34 […] wants “to hack the way we yack“. I want to yack the way we […]

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By: Patrick Murray-John http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/05/20/session-proposal-building-a-better-backchannel/#comment-33 Sat, 21 May 2011 16:51:13 +0000 http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/?p=542#comment-33 Way cool indeed. And +1 to Eric’s thought about differentiating between concurrent sessions.

I think it would be hard to move away from Twitter being the core, since that’s so well-established. But, it does also need to be mediated/augmented in some way to bring in the functionality Eric describes, and that we’ll discover we want at the session.

I imagine Twitter + Gowalla : you check in your Twitterstream to the conference and session — the mental space — you are at. In Twitter, To avoid hashtag fatigue, that’d ideally be something that could be included once in a tweet and whatever is doing the processing/augmenting would remember that until there’s a new checkin.

One option, bring the hash-bang #! into twitter to check-in a twitterstream, e.g. “@samplereality starting #!backchannel at #THATCamp” and an app already knows about #!backchannel and checks my twitterstream into it until I checkin somewhere else. Just a starting idea

On a more yacky angle, I’m wondering if “backchannel” is still the best word. I’m seeing it as more and more as another mediation of the sessions, on par with a slideshow at a session being one mediation of it. I’m wondering if reframing/blowing up what that backchannel really is will help us identify more of what we do and do not want it to do.

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By: Roger Whitson http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/05/20/session-proposal-building-a-better-backchannel/#comment-32 Sat, 21 May 2011 12:05:01 +0000 http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/?p=542#comment-32 Very interesting proposal, Mark. I’ve been experimenting with backchannels in my classes, and I wonder if a better backchannel at a conference would have different needs than a better backchannel in teaching.

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By: Eric Johnson http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/05/20/session-proposal-building-a-better-backchannel/#comment-30 Fri, 20 May 2011 19:08:15 +0000 http://chnm2011.thatcamp.org/?p=542#comment-30 Great idea, Mark. One bit of functionality that I’d love to see in a Better Backchannel is the ability to somehow differentiate backchannels that are happening for separate, concurrent sessions.

In other words, I’d love the option to visually and intellectually make a distinction between the backchannel discussion for the session I’m attending and the one for the session that’s happening in the room next to ours and the one that’s going on downstairs in the ballroom at the same time. Usually I want to be able to see them all–I just want to be able to keep straight which session is being discussed.

So . . . make that happen. 😉

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